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I sense that Fulop had a whisper in his ear to maintain some sort of political party compliance if he wants to move forward in his career !

it sure smells like that, right? why else would you want to have McGreevey's cloud over your head? it doesn't give off the best appearance..

I really hope that is not the case, but, the city will need state/federal help... the state democrat political machine needs to curb the "new reform" mayor from JC because you wouldn't other parts of the state to follow the lead of Jersey City voters. It's going to be interesting, lets see how the mayor monitors his administration.


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I sense that Fulop had a whisper in his ear to maintain some sort of political party compliance if he wants to move forward in his career !

it sure smells like that, right? why else would you want to have McGreevey's cloud over your head? it doesn't give off the best appearance..


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I sense that Fulop had a whisper in his ear to maintain some sort of political party compliance if he wants to move forward in his career !


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My humor is for the silent blue collar majority.

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We're lucky to have McGreevey on board. We're getting top quality talent at a big discount. Unlike some posters in this thread I'm willing to give people a second chance.

Oh, come on. That talent comes with a disregard for ethics and morals. Think your standards might be a little low?

In fact, I'd question why Fulop would want to associate with someone who has acted so corruptly during their career. Hmm...


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We're lucky to have McGreevey on board. We're getting top quality talent at a big discount. Unlike some posters in this thread I'm willing to give people a second chance.

I hate it when people use phrases like "top quality talent at a discount"... if someone is that good, why discount your services? And save the "wants serve the public" quotes. He has been there and it didn't produce much. By all measures, that is a damn good salary compared to many Jersey City residents. How many other people were considered for the job? What is the current salary with benefits and how does that compare to similar positions in other cities? And based on the fact that bribes / pay-to-play is considered a cost to doing business in New Jersey, it is usually the taxpayer that gets screwed.


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Agreed. McGreevey, despite his past personal shortcomings, has dedicated his time and efforts at a worthy cause in recent years, counseling inmates and helping them once they are out. That's a rather noble thing. I say let's give the guy a chance.


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We're lucky to have McGreevey on board. We're getting top quality talent at a big discount. Unlike some posters in this thread I'm willing to give people a second chance.


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Bob Knapp has an axe to grind and he knows his days are numbered. Nothing more, we can all move along now.....


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Who is Robert Knapp to be slinging mud? He currently holds 3 government jobs for a total salary of $108,463. 1) Hudson County-$88,296, 2) NJ City University-$3,750 3) East Newark Borough-$16,417 (but he lives in Jersey City). This is a step down for Mr. Knapp from a couple of years ago, when he actually had 4 government paychecks (he was spokesperson for HC Sheriff Juan Perez).
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+1. And Knapp supported the SS Healy even after it sunk.

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Who is Robert Knapp to be slinging mud? He currently holds 3 government jobs for a total salary of $108,463. 1) Hudson County-$88,296, 2) NJ City University-$3,750 3) East Newark Borough-$16,417 (but he lives in Jersey City). This is a step down for Mr. Knapp from a couple of years ago, when he actually had 4 government paychecks (he was spokesperson for HC Sheriff Juan Perez).
All salary numbers provided by http://www.nj.com/news/bythenumbers/.

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Chair of Jersey City jobs program predicts fight over McGreevey appointment

By Terrence T. McDonald/The Jersey Journal
July 16, 2013 at 2:57 PM

The chair of a Jersey City jobs program that Mayor Steve Fulop wants former Gov. Jim McGreevey to run is predicting a battle over the appointment, noting that only the program?s board of directors can hire and fire its employees.

Last week, Fulop stunned political observers when he announced he wants McGreevey, 55, to head the Jersey City Employment and Training Program, a 20-year-old nonprofit that administers the city?s job training plan.

But Bob Knapp, who chairs the program?s seven-member board of directors, said he believes the board will stand by the program?s current director, Keith Davis.

?We want to work with the new administration, we want to do what?s right by the city,? Knapp said. ?However, the city does not have the authority to appoint or terminate an executive director.?

Fulop wants McGreevey to run the JCETP and work with the city to create a re-entry program for ex-inmates. McGreevey helps to run a similar program for Hudson County, which the former governor says has been successful in getting former prisoners jobs and housing.

Knapp, the deputy director of the Hudson County Welfare Division, lobbied hard for Fulop?s main opponent in the May 14 mayoral race, former Mayor Jerramiah Healy. Fulop noted that when asked about Knapp?s thoughts on the McGreevey appointment.

?I really don?t think it?s going to be an issue,? Fulop said in a meeting with editors of The Jersey Journal. ?His board is appointed by us.?

Knapp, who said he wouldn't mind McGreevey taking another job with the city, notes that only two members of the board have terms expiring this year. Fulop brushed aside Knapp?s concerns.

?I suspect the majority will be fine with change,? Fulop said. ?I don?t think anyone can say that place has achieved everything it?s capable of achieving.?

In the meeting with The Jersey Journal, Fulop again defended his choice to team up with McGreevey, who is set to join the city payroll in September at an annual salary of $110,000.

McGreevey in 2004 resigned as governor after declaring himself a ?gay American.? At the time, he was facing a sexual harassment suit on behalf of a former lover whom McGreevey appointed as a homeland-security advisor, despite the man?s scant qualifications.

Fulop said he isn?t concerned with McGreevey?s past troubles.

?I?m looking at his performance over the last 10 years,? he said. ?It?s probably second to none as it relates to prisoner re-entry.?

McGreevey currently ministers to drug-addicted female inmates at the Hudson County jail. He said his volunteer work there will continue when he begins working for the city.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... cgreevey_appointment.html


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Frinjc wrote: I don't know what to feel about this thread, whether the smears or insinuations from the kids sneering at the "princess" or the sense of "here we go again" after an election that was supposed to give us some fresh air. Anyway, my own take at this point is to give the benefit of the doubt to Steve. I would think that he checked the facts behind McGreevey reinsertion skills before he made such an appointment. In that case he has my full approval, hope and responsibility needs to be spread at all corners of the city.

+1 on that besides, McGreevey's tenure will be scrutinized not just by JC residents but the media as well. He was written up my big news organizations and I think it's in his best interest to keep it legit.

or, you could appoint someone without a history of corruption.

if someone cheats on you, it's wishful thinking to think they won't do so again.


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give the benefit of the doubt to Steve.

There's nothing wrong with challenging the Mayor on this appointment. It is clearly controversial and demands extra scrutiny by the citizens of Jersey City.

The Mayor has a stacked deck council on his side. It is up to us to keep him honest.


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Frinjc wrote: I don't know what to feel about this thread, whether the smears or insinuations from the kids sneering at the "princess" or the sense of "here we go again" after an election that was supposed to give us some fresh air. Anyway, my own take at this point is to give the benefit of the doubt to Steve. I would think that he checked the facts behind McGreevey reinsertion skills before he made such an appointment. In that case he has my full approval, hope and responsibility needs to be spread at all corners of the city.

+1 on that besides, McGreevey's tenure will be scrutinized not just by JC residents but the media as well. He was written up my big news organizations and I think it's in his best interest to keep it legit.


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I don't know what to feel about this thread, whether the smears or insinuations from the kids sneering at the "princess" or the sense of "here we go again" after an election that was supposed to give us some fresh air. Anyway, my own take at this point is to give the benefit of the doubt to Steve. I would think that he checked the facts behind McGreevey reinsertion skills before he made such an appointment. In that case he has my full approval, hope and responsibility needs to be spread at all corners of the city.


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Is Governor McGreevey not qualified for this position? Who would you or your king Fletcher appoint to head a prisoner reentry program? I know Fletcher is a Newt Gingrich supporter so likely wouldn't want to waste money on prisoner reentry, but not sure about you.

Of course he's not qualified. Anyone with as many ethical violations as him is clearly not fit for any position with responsibility. Wake up.


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If he's going to provide services to Jersey City, I don't see why Woodbridge would pay his salary.

Yvonne is just bitter about the election, and with her shining knight Fletcher will be criticizing everything that is done right up until election day.

This is an ad-hominem attack and does nothing to address the actual argument - that McGreevey has a proven track record of being corrupt.

You don't need to be bitter about the election to realize that.


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When McGreevey was 'visiting' those highway rest stops, was he using a government / cityhall vehicle ?

If so, is it no different to a recent city employee using a city truck for a similar purpose ?


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embarrassment for New Jersey and the Gay community.

are you gay?


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I hope there is an employment contract that includes a trial period ?

Public opinion / perception, employment history, integrity and behvioual trait of McGreevey doesn't look so hot - Has Fulop's advisors given him the full, true picture and done their due diligence on this guy ?

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McGreevey is a horrible person, a liar and an embarrassment for New Jersey and the Gay community.

He has no place in Jersey City. We don't need him, and we certainly don't need to pay him $110,000 a year for his services.

This is a disgrace and a distraction. MeGreevey, GO AWAY!


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Every NJ resident I know remembers McSlimey as another corrupt politician, who in his private life endangered his wife (wives) by risky, anonymous highway rest stop sex. And then spent time covering up his public and private behavior rather than admitting it (until forced to under duress).

anonymous highway rest stop sex? tipping into code for homosexuals as sexual deviants? there is nothing to back this up. stick to facts and away from baiting.

No, I believe during his resignation when he honorably resigned because he is a "Gay American" (as opposed to a corrupt NJ Public Official who happens to

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